Keeping the previous part in mind lets move onto Mary & Mike Singers excellent question …
The only way for Mary to atone for her sins, is through a man
Since she’s ruined herself for a man, & her temple, there is no forgiveness
Theres plenty of sins god refuses to forgive, desecrating your temple, makes it impossible for her to worship god through her biology
God will not forgive her sins, they are too great, as forgiving her will cause her to not avoid a creation of sin in the people around her
She’s an outcaste & damned
Because god refuses to forgive women like her, she will have to learn to find reconcilliation & ask god to give her strength to learn to live with the guilt & consequences of her sin
Reconciliation & isolating herself from christians, to minimise the damage caused by her sin, are the only ways she has to learn from the consequences from her sins
She is too far gone for forgiveness, she is left to resort to reconcilliation
This is what god means when he tells unforgivable women like her to come to him
He’ll give her the strength to face the consequences of her sins & learn to live with the guilt of her actions
God is a god of hope, not forgiveness
God is a god of reconciliation & masculinity
If you make mistakes as a christian, they’re forgiveable, but if you make a wrong against god, & desecrate the temple ie. your body, he’s given you,
There are clear limits & he will not forgive you
You’re only hope is reconciliation with your sin
Harlotry & sluttery & whoredom, as well as homosexuality are all unforgiveable sins, god will never forgive them, they are outcastes, they are a liability & should be thrown out of churches
Selling her goods & impoverishing herself will do nothing
You cant reach god by good deeds
If materialism causes you to idolise it, then ask god to give you the wisdom & strength to prevent the idolisation in the first place
If you cant find the strength to overcome sin, impoverishment & hiding from temptation are only temporary fixes to a not having enough strength & fortitude
Just as jesus walked among sinners & prostitutes without sinning
Christian warriors are called to fight sin & engulf sinners with the authority of morality & ethics
If you want to save a sinner, teach him the authority of morality & ethics
Even if he doesnt call himself a christian, engulf him with the authority of morality & ethics, & he will have no choice but to stop sinning
You can find Mike Singers question here https://rmaxgenactivepua.wordpress.com/2013/07/02/the-marriage-strike-hitting-women-hard/comment-page-1/#comment-93
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Here is a interesting scripture that that supports the apostles writings on this subject. This requires referencing the Greek to really catch the full view on 1 Tim 2:15
“But women will be saved through childbearing (teknogonias) –if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety (sōphrosynēs).”
~teknogonias which is child bearing / rearing of a family which by implication by maternity – the performance of maternal duties
~sōphrosynēs – soundness of mind, sanity; self-control, sobriety
The only way “sōphrosynēs” & “teknogonias” is going to occur is through a man and submission to a man. The woman does this through her husband who in turn “sōphrosynēs” & “teknogonias” to Yahshua who in turn “sōphrosynēs” & “teknogonias” to the Father.
Btw, in order to have children both must make themselves available see 1 Cor 7.
~Shalom
Brilliant stuff, I hadnt considered childbearing to be an important part of spirituality for women
Finding god through man is crucial for women, by respecting & honouring men, & her own biology she finds spirituality
Excellent & fascinating points
Lol… This is a whopper of a verse. When was the last time pastor ever taught or have a older women teach younger women the four teknogonias, sōphrosynēs, and holiness ?
Heck how many Christian women exhibit ANY soundness of mind, sanity; self-control ?
lol so true, womens inability to realise true spirituality for women comes through their husbands & child bearing, causes women not to think straight …
Its why I recommend most women to stick to mens sites, red pill womens sites arent anywhere near as stabilising
Agreed!
Michael Singer – the two verses I’ve most often discussed with my father during my lifetime have been about women being saved through childbearing and women remaining silent in church.
It seems nobody likes to take these literally 🙂
It’s been ‘explained’ that Yeshua was born through a woman hence women being ‘saved’ through childbirth.
It’s also been ‘explained’ that it was ONE particular woman in Corinth that was causing dissent….
(The rest of us females?! Totally fine!)
Can’t tell you how good it is to listen to men unafraid to look at truth.
I’ve been searching to face reality my entire life!
Mike Singer is awesome, his comments are pure gold
Silence is important, as silence concentrates spirituality inwards
The bible is a strict form of biology
Women are implosive, men are explosive
Women concentrate energy inwards, men concentrate energy outwards
Its fascinating how the bible allows women to be biological, even in churches
I have heard a excellent series on this topic from Lance Lambert out of Israel- He nailed it spot on.
Women for centuries ALWAYS had a voice and influence – ALWAYS.
It was “behind the scenes” at home with hubby.
This is seen over and over and over again in world history and cannot be denied. Edward Gibbons and others pointed out – when women are given a voice in public outside of their husband – there goes the civilization (ie Ahab & Jezabel come to mind).
The early church was a wild scene – It was the coming together of Jews & Gentiles (really think about this – for centuries Jews didn’t touch or associate with Gentiles with the exception of proselytes). In addition, the majority of Jewish women knew how to dress/behave and ALWAYS wore head coverings since they followed Torah.
Paul literally wrote “NEW RULES and NEW TORAH FOR THE EARLY ASSEMBLIES” that are based on century old Jewish synagogue practices, family practices, courting, family life in the epistles. They contain many core elements of the Torah (social, moral, civil) and are greatly amplified.
The reason for women to be silent was to not interrupt and ask questions (the early church was teaching Torah to women – this was a wild concept). The women were to be silent and “If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.” Btw, it would appear it was ok for women were to prophesy in the home assemblies.
Even a bigger issue was head coverings ( Gentiles have no idea to what magnitude Paul suggested since both “men & women” ALWAYS wore head coverings).
He wrote the following radical statement in 1 Cor 11
– Men are NOT to wear head coverings (this is RADICAL)
– Women are to wear head coverings during prayer/prophesy
This is for because of the angels ( G_D always has a covering over the glory – this is seen clearly in the OT ). Imo, this shouldn’t be too much of a burden for gentiles since appears to be only during it is only during assembly.
Clearly defined roles are both equal and important make for a clear visual message (ie Actions speaks louder than words.)
Women by being modest, cool headed, silent, submissive, and wearing veils (not burka’s) it is a super strong visual assault on feminism (not to mention the strong alpha signal for the men).
Again, both men & women are equally important but each have unique roles and responsibility.
Rather than being a gaudy, rash, outspoken female – it is the
” it should be that of your inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit,” (1 Pet 3)
How many women fit into this category ? The “ultimate alpha female” is going to be the most modest /feminine.
Allow me to suggest here is the ultimate beauty for any woman that is noticed by all men and women.
The most beautiful & feminine woman in the scripture was Abrahams wife Sarah ( she got the attention of 2 kings at the age of 90 +).
The reason for her beauty is seen in 1 Peter 3:1-6 (btw vs “without being frightened by any fear” needs a bit of explanation “it means not to freak out”:)
~Shalom
Great points
Could you expand on this a bit more, do you mean sanctimony or to keep sacred? “This is for because of the angels ( G_D always has a covering over the glory”
Women really dont have the ability to be alpha, as alpha refers to leading a tribe
Women really should be classed in terms of feminity & stability of rational & logic
I’ll do my best on this – this is a rather deep end of the pool topic. As you mentioned in one of your blogs ” a woman should look hot for her husband alone”.
Lets take a few “symbolic types” and Ez 16:8
“And when I passed by again, I saw that you were old enough for love. So I wrapped my cloak around you to cover your nakedness and declared my marriage vows. I made a covenant with you, says the Sovereign LORD, and you became mine.”
The Hebrew is “kasah” which is to conceal / hide.
This is the “dwelling in the secret place of the Most High” ie Psalm 91 “He will cover you with his feathers, and under his wings you will find refuge; his faithfulness will be your shield and rampart.”
G_D always has a “covering” over the glory
– Satan was one of the “covering cherubs”
– There was a cloud during the day and a pillar of fire at night over the tabernacle in the wilderness.
– The mercy seat over the ark and the cherubs on top
– Women are the glory of men and men are the glory of G_D.
– Noahs ark (covered in pitch).
Take a look at IS 4 – it says it beautifully.
“then the Lord will create above every dwelling place of Mount Zion, and above her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day and the shining of a flaming fire by night.For over all the glory there will be a covering.”
“For over all the glory there will be a covering.”
There are many more examples in review of the scriptures This is also depicted in the Jewish feasts on the Day of Atonement (which means to cover/seal with pitch)
The disciple is called to “abide in Yahshua” as well as “your life is now hidden with Christ in God” Col 3.
The man is called to “abide in Yahshua” in doing so – he is protected.
The woman is called to abide under the protection of the man who is “abiding in Yahshua”.
She (the glory) shows this abiding / protection by obedience and head covering during prophecy.
Deception lead to sin and this entered in through woman. Thus the curse. Paul points this out “it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.”
A woman who is “covered” shows repentance / obedience / humility
from the weakness of attempting “to be self sufficient / wise” to the angelic host.
I really believe this is for her protection from deception since “Who is this coming up from the wilderness leaning on her beloved?” Songs 8:5 which corresponds to “not leaning on our own understanding”.
The man is to look/obey to Yahshua, the woman is to look to look/obey to her Yahshua through her husband.
“Women really dont have the ability to be alpha, as alpha refers to leading a tribe”
Sorry about the misunderstanding.
What would one call a chaste / feminine woman who teaches/show other women chaste / feminine behavior ?
A devout teacher or an elder, usually called sisters, not sure about the biblical term for a woman who leads other women
Just looked this up – check this out (btw, note “consecrated character”)
Titus 2:3
Old women likewise with a “consecrated character” not slanderers, not being enslaved to much wine – teachers of virtue
Here is some word history of “presbutis/old women”
-presbutis: Feminine of presbutes; an old woman — aged woman (ie ambasador)
-presbutés: an old man, a ambassador
-presbuteros – an elder, a member of the Sanhedrin, an elder of a Christian assembly
@mikesinger,
“When was the last time pastor ever taught or have a older women teach younger women the four teknogonias, sōphrosynēs, and holiness ?”
What are the four teknogonias?
Thank you.
I have gone to church all my life, often more than once per week, and I have never heard a sermon or teaching on 1 Tim 2:15.
@Bee “never heard a sermon or teaching on 1 Tim 2:15.”
LOL (actually crying) – Western based evangelical feminized theology wont touch that topic- it is at the is the deeper end of the pool in regards to Judaism (it is a fascinating scripture) I would suggest checking out a Messianic assembly for a straighter course /truth in the holy scriptures.